Legislature(2013 - 2014)SENATE FINANCE 532

04/13/2014 01:30 PM Senate FINANCE


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                 SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                      April 13, 2014                                                                                            
                         1:43 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:43:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer  called the Senate Finance  Committee meeting                                                                    
to order at 1:43 p.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Pete Kelly, Co-Chair                                                                                                    
Senator Kevin Meyer, Co-Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Anna Fairclough, Vice-Chair                                                                                             
Senator Click Bishop                                                                                                            
Senator Mike Dunleavy                                                                                                           
Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                           
Senator Donny Olson                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Mia  Costello, Sponsor;  Charles  Guinchard,                                                                    
Staff,   Representative   Mia   Costello;   Sara   Chambers,                                                                    
Director,   Division    of   Corporations,    Business   and                                                                    
Professional  Licensing, Department  of Commerce,  Community                                                                    
and  Economic  Development; Representative  Shelley  Hughes,                                                                    
Sponsor;  Ginger  Blaisdell,  Staff,  Representative  Shelly                                                                    
Hughes.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Peggy-Ann  McConnochie, National  Federation of  Independent                                                                    
Business, Juneau.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CSHB 32(FIN)                                                                                                                    
          LINES OF BUSINESS ON BUSINESS LICENSE                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
          CSHB 32(FIN) was HEARD and HELD in committee for                                                                      
          further consideration.                                                                                                
CSHCR 15(FIN)                                                                                                                   
          TASK FORCE ON UNMANNED AIRCRAFT SYSTEMS                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
          HCR 15 was HEARD and HELD in committee for                                                                            
          further consideration.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 32(FIN)                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act providing  for the  issuance  of one  business                                                                    
     license for  multiple lines of business;  and providing                                                                    
     for reissuance of  a business license to  make a change                                                                    
     on the license."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:43:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   MIA  COSTELLO,   SPONSOR,  introduced   the                                                                    
legislation.  She  explained  that   the  bill  would  allow                                                                    
individuals operating  multiple businesses  who apply  for a                                                                    
business license  to list several  lines under  one license.                                                                    
She  believed  that  HB 32  reduced  "burdensome  government                                                                    
involvement  in the  licensing process."  She supported  the                                                                    
issuance  of   licenses  by  the  Department   of  Commerce,                                                                    
Community  and Economic  Development (DCCED)  but felt  that                                                                    
paying  for  multiple  business licenses  was  onerous.  The                                                                    
legislation allowed  for multiple business  activities under                                                                    
one license if licensed under the same name.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:46:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHARLES  GUINCHARD,  STAFF,   REPRESENTATIVE  MIA  COSTELLO,                                                                    
provided sectional information. He  explained that Section 1                                                                    
beginning  on page  1, line  4 amended  existing statute  to                                                                    
require  one   business  license   for  multiple   lines  of                                                                    
business.  He cited  page  1, line  12  that authorized  the                                                                    
primary and  secondary business listings on  the license. He                                                                    
referenced  Section 2,  page 2  that  inserted new  language                                                                    
which specified  that one business license  covered multiple                                                                    
lines of business.  He noted that Section 3  allowed for two                                                                    
types of changes to a  business license. On change permitted                                                                    
an individual to  make changes to a  business license within                                                                    
the  thirty days  of  issuance. The  second  type of  change                                                                    
allowed  any  clerical error  corrections  at  any time  the                                                                    
license was valid.  Lastly, Section 3 specified  that if any                                                                    
changes  were  made  to  the  license  the  expiration  date                                                                    
remained unchanged. He  reported that Section 4  added a new                                                                    
definition to  statute for "line of  business." The existing                                                                    
definition  of "business"  would  work in  concert with  the                                                                    
definition  of "line  of business"  with  the definition  of                                                                    
"line  of  business"  meaning a  singular  activity  that  a                                                                    
business was  engaged in.  He cited Section  5, line  18 and                                                                    
offered that  the provision referred to  transition language                                                                    
and  required DCCED  to advance  measures  to implement  the                                                                    
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer pointed  to the  letters of  support in  the                                                                    
bill packet  (copies on  file). He  asked whether  there was                                                                    
any opposition to the bill.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Guinchard   replied  that  when  the   bill  was  first                                                                    
introduced any number  of lines of business  could be listed                                                                    
on  a  single  business  license. The  provision  carried  a                                                                    
significantly higher  fiscal note and would  create problems                                                                    
for DCCED with  data base recording. The  current version of                                                                    
the bill  was amended  to record  the primary  and secondary                                                                    
lines of  business, which greatly  reduced the  fiscal cost.                                                                    
The department  had one concern  that it would not  have the                                                                    
records  of  businesses  running  three  or  more  lines  of                                                                    
business  under  one license.  He  noted  that currently  85                                                                    
businesses would  fall under the  category. The  issue could                                                                    
be addressed through regulations.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:50:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson   asked  what  type  of   businesses  the  85                                                                    
businesses were and how that would impact revenue.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Costello  replied  that currently  over  700                                                                    
businesses would  be affected by the  legislation and tended                                                                    
to be  small businesses.  The 85  businesses with  more than                                                                    
three lines of business required professional licenses.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer OPENED public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
PEGGY-ANN  MCCONNOCHIE, NATIONAL  FEDERATION OF  INDEPENDENT                                                                    
BUSINESS, JUNEAU  (via teleconference), spoke in  support of                                                                    
the  legislation. She  thanked  Representative Costello  for                                                                    
introducing  the  bill. She  related  that  she was  a  real                                                                    
estate broker  and owner  of a  consulting business  and the                                                                    
legislation  affected her  negatively  as  a small  business                                                                    
owner. She  was required to  have a real estate  license and                                                                    
another  license  for  teaching  real  estate  classes.  She                                                                    
relayed   that  the   National  Federation   of  Independent                                                                    
Business was  in strong support  of the legislation  and she                                                                    
urged the committee  to pass the bill. She  believed that HB
32 would benefit all small businesses in the state.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:53:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair   Fairclough   requested   to   hear   from   the                                                                    
department. She supported the legislation.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SARA CHAMBERS, DIRECTOR,  DIVISION OF CORPORATIONS, BUSINESS                                                                    
AND   PROFESSIONAL   LICENSING,  DEPARTMENT   OF   COMMERCE,                                                                    
COMMUNITY AND  ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, conveyed that  the bill                                                                    
streamlined   business  practices   to  create   a  business                                                                    
friendly  environment.   She  expressed  concern   that  the                                                                    
current database  captured only  two lines of  business. The                                                                    
department's data base did not  have the capability to track                                                                    
multiple business lines and additional  funding via a fiscal                                                                    
note  was  necessary to  address  the  issue. An  individual                                                                    
could have  more than  two lines of  business under  the new                                                                    
business  license but  the  state would  be  unaware of  the                                                                    
other businesses,  which carried  two important  impacts for                                                                    
the state.  She related that  one concern was  the inability                                                                    
for  the  department  to  track   more  than  two  lines  of                                                                    
business.  The department  would not  be able  to track  the                                                                    
professional  license of  an  individual  with either  three                                                                    
professional  licenses  or   one  professional  license  not                                                                    
claimed as  the primary or  secondary line of  business. She                                                                    
hypothesized  a scenario  where a  person wanted  to open  a                                                                    
hair  stylist  and  manicure  salon  and  was  unaware  that                                                                    
professional  licenses were  required  for both  activities,                                                                    
the  department  could  not  ensure  that  the  professional                                                                    
license was  acquired if it  could not determine all  of the                                                                    
lines  of  business,  which threatened  public  safety.  The                                                                    
department worked  to educate  the public  on the  needs for                                                                    
professional  licensing   but  the  database  acted   as  an                                                                    
additional failsafe  to identify  people who believe  that a                                                                    
business license was  all they needed to do  business in the                                                                    
state. She  pointed to another  concern related  to research                                                                    
into  the department's  licensing  database. The  department                                                                    
regularly  received   requests  for  information   from  the                                                                    
database to  quantify numbers of  people engaged  in various                                                                    
business  activities throughout  the state.  The information                                                                    
was  helpful  to  the  Department  of  Labor  and  Workforce                                                                    
Development (DOL) and any  industry research. The department                                                                    
would not  be able  to respond  to requests  for information                                                                    
because the information would not  be accurate. Ms. Chambers                                                                    
proposed  that  a limited  solution  could  be addressed  in                                                                    
regulation. The  department could  require an  individual to                                                                    
list  a professional  license as  primary or  secondary. The                                                                    
solution  did  not  address   an  individual  with  multiple                                                                    
businesses  and  professional  licenses and  the  department                                                                    
lost the ability to capture the information.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:58:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Fairclough  wondered why  the department  had not                                                                    
devised a  solution to  the problem.  She asked  whether the                                                                    
department  was  confined  by  hardware  issues  that  would                                                                    
prevent reporting  multiple licenses. She queried  why DCCED                                                                    
could  not "link"  multiple business  licenses together  and                                                                    
issue the others without a fee to the business owner.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Chambers  answered  that  the   issue  was  related  to                                                                    
technological capacity. The  business licensing database had                                                                    
not been  updated for many  years. The original  fiscal note                                                                    
estimate  was approximately  $94,000  from the  department's                                                                    
information  technology (IT)  staff in  order to  capture or                                                                    
link  the  data.  She  shared that  the  department  had  no                                                                    
philosophical concerns  with the  bill. The problem  was the                                                                    
aging database  that prevented DCCED to  adequately meet the                                                                    
requirements of the law.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Fairclough relayed  that  she  would be  working                                                                    
with  Ms. Chambers  during the  summer addressing  licensing                                                                    
issue on  the Legislative Budget and  Audit Committee (LBA).                                                                    
She supported  providing $94,000 to fix  the database issue.                                                                    
She  shared  other  problems  with  the  licensing  division                                                                    
related  to auto  leasing companies  and tax  issues due  to                                                                    
inappropriate business  licensing. She asked for  an example                                                                    
of a line of business.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:01:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Chambers  pointed to Ms.  McConnochie's testimony  as an                                                                    
example.   Additionally,   another  example   was   business                                                                    
licenses issued  to a sole  proprietor who had a  nail salon                                                                    
and wished  to perform  manicures and hair  stylist services                                                                    
and were  all listed under  the same business name  but were                                                                    
three different  lines of business but  the department could                                                                    
only capture two  of the lines. She  offered another example                                                                    
of  one  media  services   company  that  included  computer                                                                    
services,  printing  services,   tele  production  services,                                                                    
legal services,  and motion picture services  under the same                                                                    
business  name.    The department  could  only  capture  two                                                                    
businesses in the database.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Fairclough  deduced  that if  someone  opened  a                                                                    
business and some of the  business activities were regulated                                                                    
separately  and qualified  as separate  lines of  a business                                                                    
that the  state was  piecemealing out  annually in  order to                                                                    
charge  a  licensing  fee and  keep  track  of  professional                                                                    
licensing to protect the public.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Chambers   answered   that  business   licensing   and                                                                    
professional  licensing  were regulated  separately  through                                                                    
statute. She  detailed that business licensing  employed the                                                                    
NAICS [North  American Industry Classification  System] code                                                                    
system  that  had over  one  thousand  codes. The  code  was                                                                    
utilized  for  business   and  labor  statistical  purposes.                                                                    
Businesses  in  the state  required  a  business license.  A                                                                    
professional licensing  required a level of  competency with                                                                    
different gateways  to become  licensed for  the thirty-nine                                                                    
different  licensing  programs  that was  regulated  by  the                                                                    
department and  twenty licensing  boards. A  business person                                                                    
would  need  to  pass  through  the  professional  licensing                                                                    
gateway prior to  doing business in an area  that required a                                                                    
professional   license.  The   failsafe  mechanism   of  the                                                                    
database  was engaged  when someone  wanted  a license  that                                                                    
required  a professional  license.  The department  required                                                                    
proof that the  person met the requirements  of licensure in                                                                    
the  profession. She  communicated  that at  times a  person                                                                    
mistakenly  thought   that  only  a  business   license  was                                                                    
required for  a professional service and  the department was                                                                    
able to provide proper  information on what the requirements                                                                    
were.  She  noted  that not  all  professionals  required  a                                                                    
business license  and exemplified a  nurse that worked  at a                                                                    
hospital only  required a professional license  but a doctor                                                                    
with  an   independent  doctor's  office  would   need  both                                                                    
licenses.   The  departments   professional  licensing   and                                                                    
business licensing worked together.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:06:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Fairclough  asked  whether  the  technology  was                                                                    
available to accomplish the mandates  in the legislation and                                                                    
if so, was the legislation  attempting to merge professional                                                                    
and business licensing.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Chambers answered  that DCCED  was currently  upgrading                                                                    
the  professional licensing  system.  The department's  goal                                                                    
was for the  data systems to "talk" together  in the future.                                                                    
The fiscal note would allow  the application process and the                                                                    
database that supported the  application could "capture" all                                                                    
of the codes in the background and gather the information.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Fairclough  asked for verification that  the bill                                                                    
did   not  impact   professional  licensing.   Ms.  Chambers                                                                    
answered in the affirmative.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Chambers  discussed  the fiscal  note  FN2  (CED).  The                                                                    
department requested  an additional $8,500 in  order to make                                                                    
regulatory changes; there was a  revenue loss of $37,500 due                                                                    
to lost licensing revenue.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Fairclough asked  how the  revenue loss  will be                                                                    
distributed.  Ms. Chambers  replied that  business licensing                                                                    
operated separately  from professional  licensing; therefore                                                                    
the revenue loss would only impact business licensing.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:11:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Fairclough asked  whether  the department  "used                                                                    
the costs  of the department  to spread indirect  costs over                                                                    
the other [professional licensing] division."                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Chambers responded that she  would like to do additional                                                                    
research on  the issue.  She surmised that  if the  costs of                                                                    
the  85   multiple  business   lines  were   spread  between                                                                    
professional   and  business   licensing  (combine   120,000                                                                    
licenses) the "impacts would be minimal."                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CSHB 32(FIN)  was HEARD  and HELD  in committee  for further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CS FOR HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION NO. 15(FIN)                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Relating to the Task Force on Unmanned Aircraft                                                                            
     Systems.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:12:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SHELLEY  HUGHES,   SPONSOR,  introduced  the                                                                    
legislation.  She explained  that  the legislation  extended                                                                    
the length of the task force.  She stated that in the United                                                                    
States  one in  four  homes  owned a  drone  because of  the                                                                    
smaller  size and  affordability. As  the use  increased the                                                                    
public's  concerns also  increased. Setting  "structures" in                                                                    
place with  "inherent protections,"  reduced the  impacts on                                                                    
the public.  She detailed  that Alaska  was selected  by the                                                                    
Federal  Aviation Administration  (FAA) to  be a  test site.                                                                    
The FAA continued  to address the safety  conditions for the                                                                    
use of drones. The role of  the task force was to examine th                                                                    
privacy   issues  and   Unmanned   Aircraft  Systems   (UAS)                                                                    
applications.  The  task  force   was  very  concerned  with                                                                    
privacy  issues  and misuse  of  UAS.  She remarked  on  the                                                                    
state's vast roadless  areas and noted the  potential of UAS                                                                    
in the  state. The  task force performed  will in  the prior                                                                    
year and had  issued a report to the  legislature on January                                                                    
14, 2014 and will issue a  final report on July 1, 2014. The                                                                    
task  force  brought  forward   HB  255  (Unmanned  Aircraft                                                                    
Systems) that set the parameters for law enforcement use.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hughes  related  that the  reason  the  task                                                                    
force should continue its work  was further address concerns                                                                    
over  privacy.  The  technology was  fast  growing  and  the                                                                    
integration of UAS  into national air space  was expected in                                                                    
late 2015.  She anticipated additional issues  emerging from                                                                    
the integration. One  of the duties of the  task force would                                                                    
be  to  continue to  conduct  public  hearings and  identify                                                                    
issues  on   privacy  and  data  collection,   evaluate  and                                                                    
recommend  solutions. The  task  force had  spent much  time                                                                    
focusing  on law  enforcement  use and  issues  in the  past                                                                    
year. Currently,  commercial and business use  was imminent.                                                                    
She  anticipated that  the impending  use of  commercial UAS                                                                    
would  bring  new  challenges. The  task  force  dealt  with                                                                    
Fourth Amendment  rights and would begin  to First Amendment                                                                    
rights regarding  business and  media use. She  believed the                                                                    
task  force  was "timely  and  necessary'  and stressed  the                                                                    
importance for  Alaskans to  know that  the issue  was being                                                                    
monitored and  addressed through policy. The  task force was                                                                    
comprised of  7 members and  the legislation added  a public                                                                    
member,  two  industry  members, and  the  commissioners  of                                                                    
DCCED,   and  Department   of   Transportation  and   Public                                                                    
Facilities  (DOT).  The  task  force  wanted  more  industry                                                                    
members and the  public to be more involved.  She noted that                                                                    
Senator Olson had been on  the task force. She believed that                                                                    
the task force needed to be  "a central point of contact for                                                                    
the public."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:17:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hughes spoke  to  the  desire for  increased                                                                    
economic development  in the state.  She believed  the state                                                                    
was  a prime  location for  the UAS  industry. Other  states                                                                    
took a  more restrictive and  hesitant approach and  the UAS                                                                    
industry was  interested in  the state.  She shared  that an                                                                    
individual in  the industry was  looking forward  to growing                                                                    
his  business  to  100  people and  felt  the  UAS  industry                                                                    
provided  more  opportunity  for  Alaskans.  She  urged  the                                                                    
committee to advance the legislation.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  asked for  verification  that  one in  four                                                                    
households owned a drone.  Representative Hughes answered in                                                                    
the affirmative.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer pointed  to the  sponsor statement  (copy on                                                                    
file). He asked  about the single point of  contact noted in                                                                    
the document. He inquired whether  a single point of contact                                                                    
was currently in place.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hughes answered  that  the  single point  of                                                                    
contact  was not  assigned to  any specific  department. The                                                                    
task force was the acting point of contact.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer  asked whether the  task force  was expanding                                                                    
its  membership.   Representative  Hughes  replied   in  the                                                                    
affirmative; by 5 additional members.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dunleavy questioned  whether drones  had the  audio                                                                    
and visual  capacity that  caused concerns  and how  a drone                                                                    
was defined.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:20:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hughes responded  that a  UAS with  a camera                                                                    
was unrelated.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
GINGER  BLAISDELL,   STAFF,  REPRESENTATIVE   SHELLY  HUGHES                                                                    
replied  that  the term  "drone"  had  been adopted  by  the                                                                    
military  for weaponized  unmanned  aircraft. She  explained                                                                    
that more professional sounding  names were in use; however,                                                                    
drone  was  easier to  say.  A  drone  was  the same  as  an                                                                    
unmanned aircraft and was not related to weapons use.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dunleavy elucidated that  for many years individuals                                                                    
used recreational aircraft without  weaponry. He wondered if                                                                    
the recreational individuals' rights  were being rolled into                                                                    
the  larger  discussion  on  UAS.   He  wondered  whether  a                                                                    
distinction  existed between  model airplane  enthusiast and                                                                    
the commercial and visual audio use of UAS.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Blaisdell answered  that one  of the  functions of  the                                                                    
task  force  would  define  "where   the  line  was  drawn."                                                                    
Currently  the  FAA  had  rules stating  that  UAS  use  for                                                                    
commercial  purposes  a  certificate  of  authorization  was                                                                    
required.  Most UAS  operators  with  camera equipment  were                                                                    
unaware that  they may be  operating illegally  and received                                                                    
fines. Some of the fines had  been dropped and some had been                                                                    
pursued. She indicated  that another role of  the task force                                                                    
was public education.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dunleavy  asked if he  had a model airplane  and was                                                                    
flying it  on his property  he wondered if he  was violating                                                                    
any new laws since UAS came into use.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Blaisdell replied  in the  negative. She  reported that                                                                    
unless the  individual wanted to  sell and  photography from                                                                    
unmanned  aircraft the  individual was  not in  violation of                                                                    
any  law. The  Academy of  Model Aeronautics  worked closely                                                                    
with  the FAA  and  set  out the  guidelines  and rules  for                                                                    
hobbyists. She  reiterated that most  users were  unaware of                                                                    
the   rules.  She   believed  that   "mass  education"   was                                                                    
necessary.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:24:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson commented  that the  FAA continued  to revise                                                                    
regulations related  to model aircraft  and UAS  in relation                                                                    
to sharing  airspace with manned  aircraft. He was  in favor                                                                    
of the legislature.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Fairclough  pointed  to  page 3  and  noted  the                                                                    
absence  of  the   definition  of  a  drone   and  what  was                                                                    
regulated.  She   hoped  that   the  task   force  developed                                                                    
recommendations concerning recreational and camera use.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hughes  replied  that  the  issue  had  been                                                                    
discussed  in  the  last  report   of  the  task  force  and                                                                    
discussions  would  continue  along with  implementation  of                                                                    
public education.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
HCR  15  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:27:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 2:27 p.m.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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